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Harry Reid Backs Wrong High Speed Train to Vegas

Having just driven from Southern California to Las Vegas (and back), you would think that the idea of a high speed train would excite those of us who do the 4.5 hour drive on a regular basis.  And the idea of a high speed train does interest me. 

Just not the one that Sen. Harry Reid is backing.  As reported here a few months ago, a battle is brewing over two companies that want to bring high-speed rail to Southern Nevada.  The DesertXpress is the maglev train that would go from Anaheim to Las Vegas.  You could leave Las Vegas and be at Disneyland without having to endure the notorious (and not getting any better) Southern California traffic jams.  If you wanted to go to Los Angeles, you'd take one of the light-rail trains to Union Station.  They have plans for a terminus in Palmdale to accomodate those in the high desert that want to go to Las Vegas.

The other high-speed train, the one that Sen. Reid is backing, would go from Victorville to Las Vegas.  Yes, you read that right.  Victorville.  People in Southern California would have to drive to Victorville to take advantage of the train.  And people visiting from Las Vegas, would have to rent a car in Victorville and drive into Los Angeles.

The worst part of the trip is usually getting through Southern California traffic just to get to Victorville.  After that, the trip is usually less aggravating.  The idea that the freeways in Southern California are only a problem during rush hour is an urban legend.  About the only time the freeways aren't jammed are in the wee hours of the morning.

It is about 2.5 hours from Victorville to downtown Los Angeles.  And it usually bumper to bumper for a good portion of that drive.  And most people going to Los Angeles aren't staying downtown, so just getting to Downtown Los Angeles, still means you have more driving (and more sitting in traffic) to do.

So, we are scratching our heads over Sen. Reid's backing of a high-speed train that does not connect Southern California to Las Vegas but instead only goes part of the way.

It reminds us of the hype around the Las Vegas Monorail and we all know what a boon-doggle that became.

Let us know what you think!  Would you take a train to Victorville?

From our friends at the Las Vegas Sun:

A high-speed train should be in place in 2012 that links Las Vegas and Southern California.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today announced that plans are moving ahead for the DesertXpress train to Victorville, which is a private project. Reid had thrown his support behind the project, saying it had a better chance of getting built than an alternative maglev option that would have linked Las Vegas and Anaheim.

Officials hope to break ground in the first quarter of next year, with the project expected to be completed two years later.

As a private project, DesertXpress has insisted it has no interest in competing for $8 billion in federal recovery money — although more recently its backers said they may seek federal loans to help finance the $5 billion project.

Reid said today that plans are in place to link the project with California’s north-south trunk line "soon after" the Victorville project is complete, although no specific timeline is in place. The $45 billion trunk-line project links San Francisco and Southern California.

DesertXpress envisions a spur linking its Victorville stop to the California train’s Palmdale station, about 50 miles west. The Sun reported today that the U.S. Transportation secretary would announce the designation of a federal high-speed-rail corridor between Las Vegas and Southern California.

The one-way fare between Las Vegas and Southern California would be about $50.

DesertXpress is a private enterprise currently unaffiliated with a state agency.

 

Posted on Monday, July 6, 2009 at 9:39AM by Registered CommenterLasVegasLynn in , | Comments3 Comments

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Reader Comments (3)

Yeah but. Maglev is an interesting concept, but there's only one operational passenger system in the world, in Shanghai, and it's less than 20 miles long. You think the Las Vegas monorail is a boondoggle?

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. If you actually want to go to LA, Anaheim is as useless as Victorville.
July 6, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJosh Gordon
Victorville?!?! What is he thinking? I can't think of a town I would like to visit LESS than Victorville! The whole idea is to get people into the valley. What a joke.
July 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAllen
A couple of issues to point out: The Maglev's first phase is only to Primm (not Anaheim). They are not doing any environmental or engineering work in California. DesertXpress goes 200 miles into California with its first phase with a future extension only 50 miles west to Palmdale connecting to all of California with Metrolink and the CA HSR system.

There is no money available or approved to build the proposed maglev. You can read more details "Transportation secretary: Gibbons ‘not accurate’ in noting maglev earmark" http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/sep/23/transportation-secretary-gibbons-not-accurate-noti/

Maglev reportedly applied for $12 billion in federal stimulus funds when there is only $8 billion for high speed rail in the entire country. There is no way the Maglev can be profitable at $12B of capital costs and even that huge number is a fraction of what public agencies have estimated it will really cost. Three public agencies considering maglev completed independent studies that pegged its cost at $100 to $200 million per mile – which would make it $26 to $52 billion – not $13 billion. Also there are no existing safety standards in the US for Maglev, this could take years to develop and get approved. The German government, whose taxpayers paid for the development of the maglev technology, has completely abandoned the technology in favor of more high speed rail. The Chinese Government decided not to extend the short (19-mile) line feeding Shanghai Airport; instead, they are building the world’s largest high speed rail network.
October 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBetty

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